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The Geography of our travels around Germany

In 2012 we went on a 10-week family holiday around Europe. We had been thinking about it for a few years and everything came together nicely in the summer of 2012. Barbara’s 30-year high-school reunion was taking place in her hometown in south-western Germany. This gave us some definite dates and places to plan around. We also wanted to see family in other parts of Germany, and friends in Austria and France. Over a few months we worked out a travel plan that used a combination of plane-flights and driving, to criss-cross Europe. At times it felt like we were working on a solution to the travelling salesman problem.

We were very aware that the boys would be missing a number of weeks of school. Understandably their teachers were not happy about this and we needed to make the case that the trip would be educational as well as valuable in the vague, personal sense. So we made a conscious effort to discuss with the boys the history and geography of the places we visited. We tend to discuss things with them anyway so really we were just trying to make the most of a wonderful trip.

A theme that soon became obvious was the river Danube.  Many of the places we were visiting were either on, or close to, the Danube. The Danube flows through many countries but for this trip we would only see it as far downstream as Vienna. In German it is ‘the Donau’, so I’ll use that name from now on. I’ll mention the places we visited, not in chronological order, but according to the river’s flow, starting with its source.

The course of the Danube

The course of the Danube

I suspect the source of any great river is a point of contention. The river-head might be made up of many tiny tributaries so it may not be easy to identify a single source. Hydrologists have rules for determining which tributary is the more major but this might change over time. And speaking of time, it may be that a particular location is regarded as the source for historical reasons. To point out that, say, the Romans regarded a place as the source does carry some historical authority. That is the case with the Donauquelle in the Black Forest town of Donaueschingen. You get an idea of the claim being made by the name of the town. The Donau has two main tributaries: the Brigach and the Breg, but the confluence was originally surrounded by swampy areas.

Donauquelle near Stadtkirche St. Johann Donaueschingen

Donauquelle near Stadtkirche St. Johann Donaueschingen

Information sign at Donauquelle near Stadtkirche St. Johann Donaueschingen.

Information sign at Donauquelle near Stadtkirche St. Johann Donaueschingen.

Here we are at the spring that is supposedly the source. The Roman Emperor Tiberius and various German Emperors came here for a look so maybe it’s true. The spring is now next to (and somewhat below) St John’s church. On the afternoon of our visit the parishioners had held a light lunch to raise funds for church repairs and we were happy to help them eat the left-overs.

Donaueschingen has an elevation of about 680m above sea level. The sign above points out that the mouth of the Donau, at the Black Sea, is some 2840km away. So water really doesn’t need much of a gradient to form a substantial river. (Note: the source of the two tributaries are somewhat higher at about 1000m). The Donau flows generally eastward across southern Germany, through northern Austria, along the border of Slovakia and Hungary, then south through Hungary and Serbia and finally turning east again forming the border between Bulgaria and Romania. It empties into the Black Sea via an extensive delta. The river is often divided into three sections: upper, middle and lower. The upper section ends when the river leaves Austria, so all the places we visited are part of this section.


The Rohrach at Geislingen flows into the Eyb which flows into the Fils which flows into the Neckar at Plochingen, which flows into the Rhine at Mannheim.

Donaueschingen is in the east of the Black Forest. Rain falling on the eastern side of the Black Forest tends to flow into the Donau while rain on the western side ends up in the Rhine (via the Neckar River). However, the hydrology is actually more complex than this suggests. Much of the state of Baden-Württemberg lies on a limestone plateau. The limestone has leached-away forming underground caverns and streams. These underground streams often flow towards the Rhine because it is lower than the Donau. The upshot is that although the Donau appears to have a substantial catchment in this area, in practice much of it does not contribute directly to the Donau. Instead a great deal of the flow is gained from substantial downstream tributaries.

In addition, the source of the Neckar is at Villingen-Schwenningen which is not that far from Donaueschingen! So when traveling around the Black Forest it is hard to know which rain-shower will end up in the Atlantic via the Rhine and which will find itself in the Black Sea via the Donau.

Barbara grew up in Geislingen an der Steige, which is east of the Black Forest. It is not far from Ulm, which in on the Donau. However, Geislingen is on the River Fils, which is a tributary of and flows westward to the Neckar, which, in-turn, flows through Stuttgart and then to the Rhine. Meanwhile at Ulm the Donau flowing northeast.

Geislinger Steige

Train climbing the Geislinger Steige

An explanation is that between Geislingen and Ulm the Swabian Jura rises some hundreds of metres. This low mountain range has provided a barrier to movement and trade between the Neckar and the Donau since before Roman times. The steep climb between Geislingen and Amstetten is called the Geislinger Steige. The B10 road climbs this hill as does a very steep section of the main Stuttgart to Munich railway line.

Whenever in Geislingen we visit the ruins of Burg Helfenstein which overlooks the whole area including the train-line climbing the steige. We have photos taken over decades similar to the one taken on the 2012 trip.


Der Grosser Blau, one of the small streams which flows through Ulm and into the Donau

Der Grosser Blau, one of the small streams which flows through Ulm and into the Donau

Surfing a tributary of the Isar in Munich

Surfing a tributary of the Isar in Munich

The Große Arbersee flows into the Großer Regen, which flows into the Schwarzer Regen, which flows into the Regen which flows into the Donau

The Große Arbersee flows into the Großer Regen, which flows into the Schwarzer Regen, which flows into the Regen which flows into the Donau


The Danube at Passau from the Schanzlbrücke

The Danube at Passau from the Schanzlbrücke




To be continued …

Kangaroo Valley September 2013

Some more notes regarding our next trip:

  • UTS Gridiron have a game on the Saturday we are traveling down to KV: 7pm Berkeley Park, (Mustangs v UTS). Berkeley Park is off the motorway south of Wollongong. The time isn’t great – 7pm is too late for us to drop by on the way to KV.


  • we didn’t get to that game
  • we travelled via Kangaroo Valley Rd which leaves the Princes Hwy at Berry and is a rough, winding stretch. When we got to KV I noticed one trailer brake-light wasn’t working. It ended up being a faulty bit of wiring, which I’ve now fixed. I replaced the dodgy connectors with soldered joints.
  • here are some pics

Kangaroo Valley June 2013

We are going down to Kangaroo Valley again so here are some notes:

  • we haven’t been to Manning Lookout on previous trips, or not that I can remember
  • I don’t think we’ve taken the boys to Cambewarra Lookout
  • we should try the other 2 short walks near Lake Yarrunga (Three Views Walk)
  • take ACF details to book ashes tickets


  • Next time remember to take my little gas blowtorch, better than matches.
  • We did the 2nd Lake Yarrunga walk so just one to go.

Kangaroo Valley April 2013

Another trip is in the planning stage so I thought I would summarise our previous trips.

  • In May 2007 we went with Andrea and have an album.
  • During 2009 we went twice, in July and October. For the July trip we have a blog post and an album. For the October trip we have an album.
  • During 2010 we also went twice, in May and September/October. For May we have a blog post and an album. For September we have an album.

I’m sure we visited before 2007 but I can’t find any photos. (To get a list of the posts just click on the Kangaroo Valley link at the end of this post). In addition to the previous lists of ‘things to do and take’:

  • take the GPS (the one we took to Europe but didn’t need to use)
  • don’t forget the KV maps+blurbs bag
  • a useful website is KVExplorer


  • The weather was fabulous.
  • The car+trailer went fine.
  • Here are some photos.
  • Mobile phone connectivity was much better than last time, including 3G.
  • We did a nice little bush-walk to the Lake Yarrunga Lookout. There are 2 other lookouts nearby which we should try next time.
  • We used 2 black transport bags in the trailer. These are sold to be strapped to car roofs but they fit snugly side-by-side in the trailer. So the large regular-shaped containers, including the eski, went into the trailer while the food and small or odd-shaped things went into the car boot.